for Thur. TEA TIME in L.A. (#25)REMINDER: 7-8PM Bronze
CORKBOARD for Thur. Tea Time in
L.A.(#25) REMINDER 7-8PM Bronze Time / 12-1AM
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Apr 18, 2002, 4:04
THIS IS NOT TEA
TIME. THIS IS THE CORKBOARD.
TEA TIME, THE "VERSE ONLY" RULE DOES NOT
Use the Corkboard for messages to
or discussion before or
after Tea Time. And, yes, do
suggestions, insightful quotes, . .
Episode Of The Day
#14/2.2 - SOME
ASSEMBLY REQUIRED (2nd episode of 2nd
SOTD Sonnets Of The
#62-65/154 PARTLY LOVE
(4-Sonnet Sequence) tid=75553
IS NATIONAL POETRY MONTH
* See "DESIGN
DIARY" on yesterday's corkboard
* The TERRACE is going
TOPLESS (Marsters refuses to put on a
sodding shirt) .<ewg>
SONNET LESSON: (Correcting Rhyme Error
Suggest a rewrite to fix the mistakes I
made (when very sleepy<g>)
near the end
of the 8-sonnet sequence: DO I HAVE TO
SEE BELOW IN TODAY'S RESPONSES FOR
TEXT TO FIX:
* ALSO SEE BELOW: . . . a
"sonnet story" of . . . well, just look.
NEW TEA TIME
* TEA TIME FAQ &
(THE PORTAL, THE ORACLE, AND YOU): tid=59313
YESTERDAY'S TEA TIME: tid=74917
Look for TEA TIME in L.A. at the top of the Bronze
forums page at 7PM Bronze Time.
Tea Time lasts one hour.
CORKBOARD APPEARS APPROXIMATELY 3 HRS BEFORE TEA
END OF CORKBOARD #25
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 4:15
CORKBOARD #26 is
up at tid=
I will not longer be cluttering the CORKBOARD with
ton-o-posts. <smile> I'll put LESSONS in a
"Design diary notes" ... etc. Insane
ramblings . . . well,
you get the idea . . . in a
special PERPETUAL thread.
In any case, once
again. my thanks to all for your participation
work out the kinks. (Flooding the CORKBOARD with
is a kink.<g>) . . . You see . . here I go
again. <g> SEE YOU AT TEA TIME
(if you're brave
hmmmm . . . .
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 1:16
Looks like I pasted
that little test of Friday's CORKBOARD into the
wrong window. <g> Unless something unusual
happens, what you
see below is what it will be. In
any case, OOOPS. <smile> Later.
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 1:12
BtVS Episode Of The Day
#15/2.3 - SCHOOL
HARD NOTE: Spike & Drusilla
SOTD Sonnets Of The
#66-69/154 AND THEN CAME TWO
(4-Sonnet Sequence) tid=77213
= = HAIKU FOR THE HOLY "C"
Back in Shakespeare's day .
. . schooling was rhetorical.
men, of course.
Queen Elizabeth . . .
was a royal girl, of course.
She trained like
At age eleven [?] . . . she translated
into sonnet form. .
verse by Supernatural lawyer
= = = = DAILY NOTICES / MESSAGES
NATIONAL POETRY MONTH
PROSE POSTCARDS FROM
* The "C" may want
to look in the rearview mirror tid=75951
prunehilda has donated her Kevlar to the "C." Which
shall be put to good use.
= = = = = =
GENERAL INFORMATION / LINKS
THIS IS NOT
TEA TIME. THIS IS THE CORKBOARD.
Use the Corkboard for messages to
forensicpopouri or discussion before or
Tea Time. And, yes, do post comments, suggestions,
insightful quotes, . . .
NEW TEA TIME
* TEA TIME FAQ & INDEX:
* DESTINY (THE PORTAL, THE
ORACLE, AND YOU): tid=59313
* YESTERDAY'S TEA TIME:
REMINDER: Look for TEA TIME in L.A. at
the top of the Bronze threaded
forums page at 7PM
Bronze Time. Tea Time lasts one
THE CORKBOARD APPEARS APPROXIMATELY
3 HRS BEFORE TEA TIME.
early link for Friday's Sonnets 66-69/154
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 10:21
BtVS Episode 15 (2.3) . . . is where Spike &
Dru come to town.
EXT. SUNNYDALE CITY LIMITS— PARK—
goodtvguy - Apr 19, 2002, 4:45
A classic 1958 Dodge
Desoto FireFlite crashes through the ‘Welcome to
Sunnydale’ sign and screeches to a halt. A
serious-looking lanky man climbs out. He’s dressed all
in black, wearing a black duster, which creates quite a
contrast with his bleached-blond, close-cropped hair. He
has a bit of the James Dean rebel look about him. This
is the notoriously vicious vampire, SPIKE. He strolls
over to the curb and takes a deep breath while lighting
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 4:23
shibboleth of "the conspiracy"?
The Oracle says . . .
ThePowersThatTea - Apr 19, 2002, 4:12
For the men, of
was a royal girl, of
She trained like the men.
she translated foreign prayers
It served her tongue
A woman of great power
not just by
I'd like ev'ry child
to learn to
wield their tongue well.
Control their life's
And all who join</g>
in "the conspiracy" here . . .
. . .
to transform the
AS ALWAYS <g> ONE LAST THOUGHT . .
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 3:54
The POWER of
RHETORIC . . . is in its actual effect on the
ACT 1: Once upon a time I decided to fight
a traffic ticket in that little
traffic court where there is no jury . . .
everyone said "you can't win."
the time I had "set everything up" (there is rhetoric
scene setting<smile>) . . . the police
officer stood up . . . and
solemnly told the judge
that (to paraphrase) "I don't remember
Judge's mouth fell open,
flabberghasted. Judge smiled
and said "Case
dismissed, "and asked me "if I had a problem with
And I said, "No, your honor.
ACT 2: For
political reasons having to do with Election
election fiasco (which I will not elaborate
tonight<smile>) I choose
not to participate in
the legal system (until the Supreme Court
giving a good spanking) . . . but I got
called for jury duty . . .
and still wanted to handle
the "declining" as beautifully as
RESULT: After I asked for a sidebar . . . and
attorneys and the judge
and the court reporter . . .
retired to the judges chambers . . .
and I made a
eloquent little speech about court proceedure in
other states (regarding jury instruction) . . . yada
BOTTOM LINE: The judge sincerely
appologized to me
for how he had to instruct the jury
. . . and THANKED me for
the gracious (and careful)
way I had handled the
point? I'm a RHETORICIAN. Writing
rhetorical sonnets are RHETORICAL (slayer)
CONTINUED FROM BELOW (wrapping up
prunehilda's sonnet and my IP desire)
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 3:41
Not picking on
prunehilda . . . just want to figure out
thought processes of others trying to write iambic
NOTE: But why does it matter? Well,
it truly isn't just the rhyme,
but also the iambic
meter that makes a sonnet "work."
I won't repeat what
I've said before tonight (although it looks
already have<g>) . . .
Help me out on this. Open up your lovely skulls
show me how your minds work.
Again, and again, and again .
. . bless you for your participation
in this creative
project . . . whereever it leads.
TOMORROW. (if not before
the beautiful minds of the conspirators .
. . and their awkwark (iambic) feet
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 3:38
BEFORE I SHUT UP
<smile> HERE'S A PRUNEHILDA SONNET FROM
Hi FP This is the last time I will be
able to attend TT It comes at a bad of day
prunehilda - Apr 18, 2002, 7:10 PM 24 of 27
along if you dare.#1
I've been staring at a backlit screen NOTE: Good
It seems that spring began in the
Rockies. NOTE: wrong accent
sirenssong burst forth on the scene, NOTE:
A resurrection of sorts.
Don't mock please. NOTE: awkward accent
can't reflect on what it's like elsewhere. -
Perhaps it could be far less dramatic
But here the world can come alive
with flare, - OK
Snow gone, sky blue: a motion
picture flic. - OK
The grey and white
world melts and becomes lush -NO
soon brown branches pop with new leaf green.
Fresh words come to my lips.
Metaphors flush - NO
New life, new
hope, new episodes unseen. - OK
virtual world now; The terrace calls. OK but
Under its spell the victims
quickly fall. -NO
TOO LARGE, MUST WRAP UP WITH ONE MORE
AND FRIDAY COMES TO SANTA MONICA
forensicpopouri - Apr 19, 2002, 3:35
Just finished watching
BtVS #15 (2.3) . . . which is when Spike &
come to town . . . A-MEN. <smile> I'll
read through the script,
but then I've simply go to
catch that 3 hours of sleep I missed last
before writing Friday's rhetorical
SO . . . let me make a few really
quick asides to the most faithful
-- TWAOG & SNL.
SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO
FIND OUT: Where the trap (?) is in
to "hear" Iambic Pentameter.
first time I made (the out-of-the-blue) decision to
a Shakesperean sonnet(having never cared
much for Will's <smile>) . . .
pentameter phrasing just seems to roll naturally off
NOTE: That does not mean that I don't
have to flip throuugh serveral variations
of what I
want to say in my mind before choosing "the most
fitting" . . .
but, generating iambic
pentameter alternatives is just like . . .
computer CHIP <ewg> is generating the
[CONTINUED ABOVE THE LINE]
lawyer - Apr 19,
2002, 2:43 AM
Had my share of
interviews too and never really enjoyed them. In my line
of work, it's pretty much BS anyway; you have to pretend
you absolutely LO-VE the firm you interview with (even
if you've never heard of IT!). They don't even test your
level of knowledge! They just make sure you went to the
right school (which I did not, but I'm foreign so I get
stamped "interesting!"). Aaah, the hypocrisy of my
world! Thank God for the Bronze and TT!! Hey, if I get a
job in LA, will I get to see JM shirtless and drink beer
on the Terrace as often as I want? Ah, sweet
Thanks for taking to respond to my post, glow.
Your job sounds really interesting.
Did you read that
prunehilda will not join us at TT anymore? (or maybe I
read today's TT too fast). Will she be the first
conspirator to fall, victim of tea time?
Oops that's maintain eye
glow - Apr 19, 2002, 2:20
glow - Apr 19, 2002, 2:19
Honestly I don't know
how I pass any of my interviews. After each and everyone
I feel like such a loser. But I do have some
suggestions, firm handshake, maitain eye contact, smile
all the time, laugh, make jokes if you can and if it's
As for the interview questions, for
my profession, ESL teaching, I took a course on how to
apply and interview for prospect ESL teaching jobs,
which really helped a lot. They gave us a list of
practice questions that I went over before the
interview. However, I was only asked one or two of the
questions that were on the list and the rest of the
questions I had to ad-lib. Plus, I was lucky enough to
have had a meeting with my supervisor and the
co-ordinator of the program about the program before the
interview, so not all of the questions were a total
I hope that I have been helpful in
some way. :o)
Hi FP, Hi glow, hi all
lawyer - Apr 19,
2002, 12:01 AM
Can't believe I missed
TT again (and a topless JM on the Terrace!). I had an
haiku all ready and everything... I really need to
change my line of work!! By the way, glow any
suggestions on how to succeed at an interview? :) I have
a few coming up--including in LA... FP: will I make it
in the "good old boys" town, with all my NEW ideas?
By the way, glow, I was reading your thread with
Pleasant_Guest: congratulations on your new job!
on topic (more or less): glow makes a great point here.
I was struggling with the IA and I don't feel so bad now
(thanks glow!): maybe it's just not quite natural for my
brain to process ideas in IP (unlike you, dear FP, ...
you freak of nature!! <smile>). I am definitely a
word person, but am still struggling with rhetorical
sonnets. And the language barrier is not helping
either... But like glow, I am willing to work at it. It
may actually help me become more concise (yadi, yadi,
yada... much?). Well, at least I can keep conspiring
(that, I like, he, he) and, most important of all,
learn, learn, learn. Thank you fellow Bronzers for
giving me this new opportunity to learn. ... Ok, now I
feel like a big sponge... your fault!
glow - Apr 18, 2002, 8:26
I don't think I made
my argument too clear over in Tea Time. What I was
trying to say is that not everyone learns in the same
fashion. For example, the school system: Schools choose
one method of teaching, although teachers may impose
their own pedagogy, they still must abide by the
school's curriculum and methods. The method chosen is
the one that is most applicable to the majority of
students. Consequently there will be students who slip
through the cracks because they cannot process
information the same way as their classmates. That is
why most if not every school has special education
classes or tutors, etc., to help these students who
learn differently get an education.
I think my
example can be applied to your theory:
constraints lead to NEW thinking.
You have discovered or created a process
that helps you think in new ways. I don't think it is
applicable to everyone. My brain may not be able to
function in IP, but I'm not saying that I won't give it
a try. I know that it will take lots of practice to
reach the level that you are at, but then again it may
not work for me. Also, perhaps because Hollywood is an
"old boy's school" there is no room or allowance for new
thinking. I guess that's why we have indie films, yet
they are beginning to garner the attention of Hollywood.
To sum it up, there are no absolutes in art, no matter
what genre they appear in.
Off topic and to
lighten the mood: Do you like hockey? I ask because the
Canucks beat Detroit last night 4-3 and I'm so
ecstatic!!! Woo hoo!
END OF LESSON
forensicpopouri - Apr 18, 2002, 5:27
Feel free to
disregard the Sonnet Training Exercise below this
(chuckling to self)
forensicpopouri - Apr 18, 2002, 4:30
"engine" in a "stew" ?
<ewg> I swear I was asleep when I wrote that
P.S. Regarding the LAST LINE of the
Training Exercise . . .
forensicpopouri - Apr 18, 2002, 4:21
Well, it's not
"wrong"with regard to rhyme,
but I was tired, and
surely there is a better way
to say what I had in
If you can figure out what I
had in mind <g>
(don't ask me, I only write
you could try coming up with a
of iambic pentameter (with the
GET OUT YOUR RHYMING DICTIONARIES .
. . AND BEGIN! <smile>
NOTES regarding Training Exercise
forensicpopouri - Apr 18, 2002, 4:15
1. There's nothing
wrong with the last line,
it is bold because of an
html oops. <smile>
The end-rhyme words that
are in error are BIG and BOLD.
2 Remember that
Shakesperean sonnet quatrains
are rhymed ABAB
(alternating lines end-rhyme).
A SONNET LESSON (Training Excercise!)
Rewrite these mis-rhymed quatrains
forensicpopouri - Apr 18, 2002, 4:10
FROM "DO I HAVE
(8) THIS FINAL SONNET
will try to regain
a touch of dignity about
A WEEK FROM NOW,
our Buffy's back "insane,"
so in the present we
rehash the past . . .
. . .
but noticing when wings were bolted
The last show of the first
half season flew
the first two times I watched
the perfect little
engine in B. stew . . . .
A SONNET STORY about "the birth" of
forensicpopouri - Apr 18, 2002, 4:06
aka Public Debate in the Network
(a previously composed
TO MY LONG
ARGUMENT THE GIRL REPLIED:
yada-yada-yada. Hot air, much.”
reasoning was clear, but she just sighed.
coolness had repelled my logic’s touch.
those around us picked up her refrain:
Yada-yada-yada, flap that tongue.
The more you
say, the more you are insane --
sentence you climb down a rung ...
coolness factor. So just wag away.”
And so I shut
my mouth to contemplate
a world where ev’rything
you had to say
had to be short: concision must
And in the silence Shakespeare
spoke to me:
“The next time you debate, speak