TEA TIME in L.A. THE BRONZE / 3.20-5.22.02
TEA TIME in L.A. (4-5 PM Pacific) 3/22 Friday's Topic: Joss Whedon & The Bronze

Tea Time 4:00-5:00 PM (Pacific)... welcome
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 6:59 PM

TODAY'S TOPIC LINK: 5/21/2000 quote of Bronze post by Joss Whedon about the Bronze

"It's tea time in Santa Monica,
    the Pacific breeze pushes the smog back downtown,
and the "sharks" are still stuck not returning calls in their nasty little offices
   in Beverly Hills." <smile>

Ooops ... that was yesterday's greeting. Let me think ...

In every internet generation a community is born.
      The one community in all the world chosen
         to fight the forces of social degradation
               and lead humanity into the a new level of super goodness.

TODAY'S TOPIC is whether Joss still cares about the Bronze ... do we care ...
does it matter ... what flavor tea do you like best ...

   ... conversation, poetry, philosophy, song ... and of course THE CHEESE.

I'll be around 'til 5:00 PM (Pacific)...

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   Sonnets: Why I Post In Shakespearean Sonnets (4-Sonnet sequence)        
     PART 1
     PART 2
         NOTE: Rhyming couplet response byskull_uk!!!

PREVIOUS SONNET POSTS: tid=46649 tid=47071 tid=47636

you speak


Delighted you all dropped by ... POOF
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 8:13 PM 1 of 43

I will be thinking fondly of you all.
(And will read anything left behind here later tonight)


For the time being there may even be Tea Time on the weekend ... <smile>

Before I rush off into the night ... (praise for skull_uk)
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 8:07 PM 2 of 43

It seems it's actually hard to do an exactly one-hour conversation
well ...

.. especially when you lost your broad-band connection (due to
corporate insanity). I've got to get on the ball and get another.

BUT BEFORE I GO: I want to thank skull_uk for taking
a moment to compose some verse in response to my multi-sonnet
epic listed in the links above.

And another bow to prunehilda for her verses previously.

I'll look around again before going POOF ... but I will soon.

ah, the poet prunehilda arrives ... just as tea time is almost at an end
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 8:01 PM 3 of 43

My mind now wrestles with which of all the other posts to answer
... or can I combine them into one profound response?

PG: Something beyond chat obviously ...
but ... (thinking too many thoughts at once.<g>

     ... and running out of tea time

Oh, tea nearly over...(whiskers droop)
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:57 PM 4 of 43

I like chatting with you! (brush furry cheek against your hand.)

until next time...

(flies away to the east...)

Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:55 PM 5 of 43

Now you're talking about those TV shows where they say "Log on now, and help pick the winner!"
OK, don't mean to pick on you, I know you're hoping for more than that.

bye leg ... (passes spiked tea to Pleasant Guest ... just because<smile>)
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:54 PM 6 of 43

Ah the military-technology complex ....

Something else we must focus our Buffy-enhanced passions
toward sublimating. <smile>

Earl Grey, please. The sugar and milk goes in first though.
Posted by: prunehilda - Mar 22, 2002, 7:52 PM 7 of 43

Or maybe oolong today. I never gave any thought as to whether Mr. Wheldon is overseeing the Bronze. I come here to see if others are interpreting the events in the same manner that I do. That's what makes it interesting. I have discovered that not only does BtVs make you ponder but sonnets are an excellent source of inspiration. By the way, FP, bravo. You've been holding out on us and I'm going to try harder in the future.

forensicpopouri (check my chin please, did I get it all off? purrr)
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:52 PM 8 of 43

your comment is very profound...

but there's already one series, and talk of another...

I don't think about it that profoundly, I just wanna enjoy a good show for as long as possible.

Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:52 PM 9 of 43

Aren't you essentially talking about chat rooms?
And the bad tech at this site is particular to this site. I would like to see active threads stay at the top, instead of being pushed off by hate-spams.

I slip legends the special bottle of spiked tea reserved for profound posters <smile>
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:49 PM 10 of 43

One question is whether it will take a new series
designed from the beginning to fit the two together (Internet/TV)

...or does it makes (at least some kind of sense)
to focus on how the value that is stored "here"
can be used to help the evolution.

(posting this while I think more<smile>)

Thanks for the tea
Posted by: legends - Mar 22, 2002, 7:49 PM 11 of 43

I must bolt. Have a good one!

forensicpopouri..of course technology is bad at times!
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:49 PM 12 of 43

look at all the interesting high-tech explosives countries know how to make!

(begins grooming extra milk off of whiskers...)

Pleasant_Guest, you are so right
Posted by: legends - Mar 22, 2002, 7:46 PM 13 of 43

I do not want to see the end, but my realist head says to my breaking idealist heart that the end will have to come some day. But I do hope and hope furvently, that the end will be good.

Oooooh! Highlander!
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:45 PM 14 of 43

Bad movies, though. They didn't learn the Star Trek lesson - go with your strengths.

Actually, searching for info about past Highlander eps is what ultimately brought me to the Bronze. I thought, hey, if Highlander has a site, maybe Buffy does, too!

Now I begin to see (the vale lifts slowly from the clouded mind)
Posted by: legends - Mar 22, 2002, 7:43 PM 15 of 43

The bigger implications of what you are saying... Can we take the tele medium and combine it ACTIVELY with the internet? Skip the HDTV and other stepwise improvements on the tele and really make television participatory OR increase the entertainment aspects of the internet. Even more broadly, by forming creative communities around a story (for lack of a better word) have an evolving tele/internet entertainment dohicky (no word comes to mind) which is created both by the producers and the consumers.

Oh, my, could you make my next cup, decaf?

a quick tech comment about this board ... (copy/paste tids)
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:43 PM 16 of 43

Let us "ponder" <serious smile> the absurdity of
having to copy and paste tid's into the address bar.

MY LARGER POINT: Is that technology has to evolve
to facilitate "growth" of the social dynamics.

In many cases, technology seems to even get worse.

The old episodes will always be around
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:41 PM 17 of 43

Because of cable and satellite tv. All those stations need something to air. For crying out loud, they're airing old GAME SHOWS.

Buffy isn't the only show to have a strong internet presence.

legends, I live in terror that the show will end abruptly...
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:40 PM 18 of 43

I'm a terrible romantic and I want a GOOD ending.

Like the Highlander series ending...it was pretty good, although the next motion picture confused me plenty lol

Will it have to come to that?
Posted by: legends - Mar 22, 2002, 7:37 PM 19 of 43

Buffites/Trekies? Sigh, at least the tea is good. Of course, the existance of a continuing fan base means continued airings of old episodes. All in all, good.

Welcome legends (and all haven't yet seen) ... as for Hollywood ...
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:36 PM 20 of 43

No one is really ready out here to wrap their mind around the
Internet + Television connundrum (sp) ...

The value (that is being overlooked) in "the Bronze experiment"
is the passion (and, yes, the serious cultural impact) of
this series ... in connection with it's online history.

(THinking more ...)

Tallian...tea bags...
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:36 PM 21 of 43

(squeezes eyes shut and flinches in horror, whiskers curling.)

Excuse me legends, didn't mean to igmore your entrance.
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:36 PM 22 of 43

And yes, hopefully there will be new shows equally creative to inspire us.

Some will move on. Some will be stuck in a time warp
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:34 PM 23 of 43

Like Trekkies.

People of passion
Posted by: legends - Mar 22, 2002, 7:33 PM 24 of 43

My guess is that the passion for Buffy would find a new outlet (just as we were saying before about Joss finding new interests) and that outlet may well have a forum that would fill the void that would be the Bronze. Just my over philosophical thought.

Green tea is always best unsweetened, and as fresh and green as possible. ummmm

A tea question for Pleasant_Guest
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:32 PM 25 of 43

So now I'm assuming you use loose tea rather than bagged? I've heard it makes all the difference.
I'm afraid I'm a barbarian when it comes to tea. T-bag in a cup of water stuck in the microwave. Oh the horror!

Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:30 PM 26 of 43

why would we keep posting after the show ends?

Hopefully, we would move on too, huh?

Tee Hee T. <g> The black hole of the 1,000-post ... apocalypse!
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:29 PM 27 of 43

I guess I understand why the "old timers" fought to keep
the linear board here ...

... but in it's present form it can't be but for a few folks.

New thinking needed.

And that's why we're here! <smile>

When we put our combined noggins together ... (hmm,I forgot what I
was saying.<g>)

Whisper: I've wondered what the Bronze will be like after the series ends
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:28 PM 28 of 43

Hundreds of Buffyites contemplating Buffy trivia ad infinitum

Tallian...I am very fond of GOOD tea, quite the epicurean actually...
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:26 PM 29 of 43

a good quality tea needs no sweetening.

But iced tea is best sweet.

Them again (smile) I am sweet enough already...

(preening, pleased you like my feathers, lapping tea delicately.) =)

May I join you folk?
Posted by: legends - Mar 22, 2002, 7:26 PM 30 of 43

I would love a cup of green tea. I agree with PG that an artist needs to evolve. An idea that you love in 1994 is less exciting in 2002 compared to last year's idea which is fresh and new. And in Hollywood, if it isn't new...

If 1000 people were on a linear board at the same time
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:25 PM 31 of 43

It would develop a state of conciousness and transport itself to another dimension, leaving an internet hole that would immediately be filled by porn sites.

Yes, artists move on ... But let us ponder the TV/Internet synergy of the Bronze
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:25 PM 32 of 43

What "story" was told there?

Did we (society) learn anything about how to do this kind of
community better?

Or did things just "go down the tubes" as time when by because
of, e.g., "too many participants."

(Or jealousy about the Bronze Posting Party guest list?)<smile>

Yes T, it makes perfect sense for Josh to post in the Linear board...
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:21 PM 33 of 43

He certainly couldn't go saying "hey" in all the threads. <smile>

BUT When there are more than a hundred (more than 20?)
people around ... how much sense does posting in the Linear board make?

IMAGINE ... if 1,000 people were trying to hang out in the Linear
at the same time? And talk!

I think it makes perfect sense for JW to be moving on to other projects.
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:20 PM 34 of 43

After all, he is an artists and artists evolve creatively.

I know my writing is vastly different than it was seven years ago.

I think the mistake is in "whoring" the show to other talent. I don't think the show is really bad, yet, I'm expecting better things to come of it...but I don't want it all dark soap opera all the time.

You surprise me, Pleasant Guest
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:18 PM 35 of 43

Being from the south, I thought you would opt for Sweet Tea. (My daughter lived in N. Carolina for 4 years and got hooked on it there).

And I love your feathers.

PG ... as always making a delicious image of an entrance <smile>
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:17 PM 36 of 43

(That is my typical inscrutable smile, of course.<g>)

I think their is hope for the Bronze ... Whedon-wise.

But I am a strange character. <g>

It actually makes sense for him to be linear
Posted by: Tallian - Mar 22, 2002, 7:16 PM 37 of 43

Its a much easier way for a celebrity to connect with everyone. Big ideas? Nope. I think he just uses it for ego-stroking.

Assam for me please two lumps of brown sugar, heavy milk, no lemon! Smile
Posted by: Pleasant Guest - Mar 22, 2002, 7:15 PM 38 of 43

(swoops down in avatar form of a silver spotted tabby cat with butterfly wings made of peacock feathers.)

Hello, all. =)

BTW ... Joss implied over at Bronzebeta that he wouldn't post there anymore
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:14 PM 39 of 43

Certainly, he's winding down his personal Buffy-focus ...

(thinking of what I was going to say next, I forgot it <smile>)

Tallian ... Do you think Joss ever had "big ideas" about the Bronze
Posted by: forensicpopouri - Mar 22, 2002, 7:09 PM 40 of 43

And I've read somewhere that he doesn't understand Threaded posting

... he's a Linear guy. <sincere smile>